{"id":469,"date":"2015-03-11T21:44:22","date_gmt":"2015-03-11T16:44:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/realmsofdespair.info\/blogs\/tharius\/?p=469"},"modified":"2015-03-11T21:58:22","modified_gmt":"2015-03-11T16:58:22","slug":"tip-toe-through-the-tulips","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/blog\/2015\/03\/11\/tip-toe-through-the-tulips\/","title":{"rendered":"Tip Toe, Through the Tulips &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ahhh, spring is in the air &#8230; the smell of serious funk &#8230; wait what? \u00a0Someone parked an ogre east of Darkhaven and he stinks up the joint! \u00a0All the tulip scented fabreeze in\u00a0the Realms won&#8217;t cover that up. \u00a0We&#8217;ll keep dumping boo-kays of flowers on him anyway until he goes away and makes up with his wife :&gt;<\/p>\n<p>This quest brought out my thinking cap a few times &#8230; how to obtain the tulips is one problem and which to hand in is another. \u00a0Finding them boils down to\u00a0telescan until you&#8217;re sick of it then do mkill farming till you&#8217;re sick of that, then traffic for ones you&#8217;re missing\u00a0and repeat. \u00a0Ok maybe not quite that bad but &#8230; well &#8230; ok.<\/p>\n<p>So the pink, red and coral tulips can be found by telescanning. \u00a0As Akael noted, tulips also appear in areas that are non-teleportable, but beyond running through the areas a few times a day to check your mainstay is going to be the ones you can find by teleporting. \u00a0Gnarish is making out like a bandit, I&#8217;ve rotted the teeth out of a few characters eating zombie candies and scanning all over hell&#8217;s half acre. \u00a0In the process I&#8217;ve hit my totems on the right characters multiple times, hit Window to the World noteboard and also hit a new Twenty Questions noteboard &#8211; more on that in a minute.<\/p>\n<p>So the twist with the pink, red and coral tulips is that they&#8217;re increasingly rare. \u00a0So by the time you&#8217;ve found enough corals it&#8217;s likely you&#8217;re overflowing with pink and reds. As much as I appreciate the idea of a sliding difficulty scale, I wonder if just having them closer in rarity wouldn&#8217;t have achieved the same&#8230; you still have a ton of randomness because of the teleporting aspect. \u00a0Oh well.<\/p>\n<p>Next come the violets and silvers which you get from mkill. \u00a0The violet mobs are pretty soloable. \u00a0The son of a gun of it is that both the violet and silvers are pop items. \u00a0So you find the mob and kill it and maybe nothing. \u00a0For the violets, well, oh well. \u00a0For the silvers which are multi-av mobs &#8230; yeesh! \u00a0That&#8217;s mean! \u00a0Think about this, for a full turn in of 35 sets you needed 21 of each tulip on a multi-av mob which might not pop &#8230; how many kills do you think you&#8217;d need to get a group of 3-5 a full set?<\/p>\n<p>Some of us noticed that 2 of the mobs were much more manageable &#8230; Dennis Moore is a good 2 man run and with the right set of characters Zyla can be soloed &#8230; when this is the more manageable &#8230;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_468\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-468\" style=\"width: 1000px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/realmsofdespair.info\/blogs\/tharius\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/killingZyla.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-468 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/realmsofdespair.info\/blogs\/tharius\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/killingZyla-1024x563.png\" alt=\"The CM mage crew at Zyla\" width=\"1000\" height=\"550\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/killingZyla-1024x563.png 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/killingZyla-150x82.png 150w, https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/killingZyla-300x165.png 300w, https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/killingZyla.png 1922w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-468\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The CM mage crew at Zyla<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>So how do we leap to 35 sets means 21 of each flower? \u00a0Ahh this is where the maths comes in. \u00a0A quick visit to <a title=\"Math is Fun\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mathsisfun.com\/combinatorics\/combinations-permutations-calculator.html\" target=\"_blank\">Math is Fun<\/a>\u00a0gives us the chance to set up a combination of pink, red, violet, coral and silver tulips. \u00a0Repetitions are allowed {silver, silver, red} is ok but order is not important {silver, silver, red}, {red, silver, silver} are the same.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Combinations with repetition (n=5, r=3)<\/p>\n<p>List has 35 entries.<br \/>\n{pink,pink,pink} {pink,pink,red} {pink,pink,violet} {pink,pink,coral} {pink,pink,silver} {pink,red,red} {pink,red,violet} {pink,red,coral} {pink,red,silver} {pink,violet,violet} {pink,violet,coral} {pink,violet,silver} {pink,coral,coral} {pink,coral,silver} {pink,silver,silver} {red,red,red} {red,red,violet} {red,red,coral} {red,red,silver} {red,violet,violet} {red,violet,coral} {red,violet,silver} {red,coral,coral} {red,coral,silver} {red,silver,silver} {violet,violet,violet} {violet,violet,coral} {violet,violet,silver} {violet,coral,coral} {violet,coral,silver} {violet,silver,silver} {coral,coral,coral} {coral,coral,silver} {coral,silver,silver} {silver,silver,silver}<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If you&#8217;ve done it right you got this list. For the die hards who started early and managed to get all 35 sets, my hat is off to you. \u00a0I got about 26 sets and I can&#8217;t even stand one more Zyla kill right now, even if you told me that in the final hours the pop rate goes to 100%.<\/p>\n<p>A good quest overall, a bit long though. \u00a04 types of flowers would have given 20 combinations, so all in all drop the 3rd telescan type, make red a tiny bit tougher to find and I think maybe it might not have felt so bad by the end. \u00a0Still as with many quests I got out and killed Zyla for the first time, never mind the first time by myself. \u00a0My scripts for telescanning and for CM mages got a great upgrade but now it&#8217;s time for a few days of something else \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>Cheers!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ahhh, spring is in the air &#8230; the smell of serious funk &#8230; wait what? \u00a0Someone parked an ogre east of Darkhaven and he stinks up the joint! \u00a0All the&#8230; <span class=\"more-link\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/blog\/2015\/03\/11\/tip-toe-through-the-tulips\/\">Read More<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[33,1],"tags":[221,222,223],"class_list":["post-469","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-quests","category-uncategorized","tag-akael","tag-murg","tag-tulips"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4Tri1-7z","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/469","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=469"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/469\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":471,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/469\/revisions\/471"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=469"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=469"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.realmsofdespair.info\/tharius\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=469"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}